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I find it suspicious this reviewer would reject the page. And then immediately after the person covered by the page be contacted on social media by a Ritesh Kumar of Gloster media claiming to be specialist in wikipedia moderation who can help. Firstly how would they know the page submission was rejected and secondly any help to remedy the issue should have been made through wikipedia not a 3rd party.
Dafea23 (talk) 16:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Dafea23: "Ritesh Kumar" of "Gloster media" is not connected to Wikipedia in any way. Wikipedia does not send you help via third parties.
- There are many people who claim to get your draft accepted due to their familiarity with Wikipedia guidelines and/or individual Wikipedia administrators. These are all scams.
- They (and everyone else in the whole world) can see when drafts submitted to Articles for Creation are rejected, because everything on Wikipedia is publicly logged. That is how they were able to contact you when your draft got rejected. There isn't anything Wikipedia can do to control how random scammers on the internet choose to conduct their scams.
- "Help to remedy the issue" was indeed given on Wikipedia. The patroller who rejected your draft told you that there are not enough secondary and independent sources. I advise you to read WP:SECONDARY and WP:INDEPENDENT to learn more. Kind regards, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 16:46, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
@Dafea23: @Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI: is correct, there is an ongoing scam on Wikipedia , see WP:SCAM for more information. Also your draft needs to be backed by reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject to be accepted into the mainspace. Regards Ratnahastin (talk) 16:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC) Ratnahastin (talk)
- Are BBCsport and Sky Sports news not deemed reliable sources anymore? We aren't talking politics. Everything stated is based on fact and backed up by published by respected sports media. There is nothing of opinion. The sources used are the same as other excepted sources for other players on wikipedia. Agreed the first draft didn't have enough secondary sources but the second resubmitted one did. Dafea23 (talk) 13:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
South Indians are not desis[edit]
In the source provided has 'Some South Indians and Tamils don’t feel ‘Desi’ includes them' topic. please dont remove casually Afv12e (talk) 02:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Putting undue weight on this in the lead is inappropriate, given that the existing sources include all of India as falling into the Desi categorization. Per WP:BRD, your edits were reverted because you have no consensus. Ratnahastin (talk) 11:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is from the source :
- Some South Indians and Tamils don’t feel ‘Desi’ includes them
- As transnational classifications expanded on the academic level, “Desi” emerged as a grassroots-based alternative in the ’90s partly to combat the nationalist ideals of a growing Bharatiya Janata Party in India, Maira said.
- “‘South Asian American’ is fine in academia, but at a community level, it’s a bit unwieldy,” Maira said. “‘Desi’ actually emanated from progressive South Asian spaces.”
- But even though she saw its positive intentions early on, Maira recognizes that the use of “Desi” is fraught with disagreement today, particularly among South Indians and non-Indians who are pushing back against a North Indian, Hindi-dominated landscape.
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- Even in the article it says the word 'desi' itself is a Hindustani(Hindi-Urudu) word.
- Usage of 'desi' or 'desi culture' or the synonymous 'Bollywood culture' is alien to south India.
- Though as a reference in Wikipedia we never take his, but for a discussion, you can find discussion posts here that 'South Indians' never consider to be 'Desis':
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/54vxxs/a_lot_of_indians_dont_identify_with_desi_culture/
- https://www.quora.com/Do-South-Indians-consider-themselves-to-be-Desi Afv12e (talk) 12:58, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- What "some" are feeling is not universal in any form.
- See what is WP:RS. If you are really going to depend on these horrible sources like Quora and Reddit for your information then you must read WP:RGW. Ratnahastin (talk) 13:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have already told that , these reddit and Quora are not used in Wikipedia, but for a sake of discussion you can have read. There are lot of disagreements.
- The source provided is of NBC News , Which is a reliable source according to Wikipedia.
- I have quoted the exact text from the source here. Afv12e (talk) 13:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC)