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Proposing an idea - adding to the definition[edit]

I propose the following idea: Music is a collective human process by which we heal ourselves, heal each other, we teach, we learn, and contribute to the collective knowledge of our species. Our music enables those who succeed us to learn and develop new ideas of their own.

It's a pretty big idea but generally is a summary of the rest of the page - it's a collective truth we all feel. Dyxtan (talk) 18:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, adding a link to music therapy did the trick.Dyxtan (talk) 21:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"2024 in music" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

The redirect 2024 in music has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 21 § 2024 in music until a consensus is reached. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 02:49, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Superior pitch resolution[edit]

Music § Neuroscience has an image of the human brain with a description that includes the phrase "superior pitch resolution". Nowhere else in that section, nor in its surrounding sections, do we discuss pitch in any way. This is not a problem per se, but without any context it is unclear to readers such as myself what exactly "superior pitch resolution" is. Perhaps a simple solution is to link the words "superior pitch" to absolute pitch? Assuming that's what it refers to, of course. --62.166.252.25 (talk) 10:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First sentence[edit]

@Aza24, I'm not quite sure how I've strayed from the sources.

What I started with: [...] the arrangement of sound to create some combination of form, harmony, melody, rhythm, or otherwise expressive content.

My attempt: [...] the arrangement of sound for expressive purposes, often characterised as encompassing aspects of form, harmony, melody, and rhythm.

OED: the art of combining vocal or instrumental sounds in a harmonious or expressive way.

AHD: The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.

Britannica: art concerned with combining vocal or instrumental sounds for beauty of form or emotional expression, usually according to cultural standards of rhythm, melody, and, in most Western music, harmony.

If anything, I thought I was aligning it more closely with the sources. Remsense诉 09:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well the important thing here is not setting out any false universals. Your definition starts with explicitly saying that music is “for expressive purposes” which is not inherent in any of the definitions (it’s merely one of the possibilities: “beauty of form or emotional expression”; “harmonious or expressive” etc.)

I also feel like “encompassing aspects of” doesn’t clearly portray music as being able to have some but not others of these attributes (whereas “some combination of” is more direct).

That was my thought process at least. Your other lead changes seem worthwhile (and of course, the second and third lead paragraph probably still warrants a complete rewrite when this article is better fleshed out), but I’m a bit hesitant here. Aza24 (talk) 17:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

false universals...not inherent in any of the definitions

To me, AHD is totally equivalent when it says so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition. How about merely expressive arrangement of sound? Remsense诉 17:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]