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The titled surname Channar is not in the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Channar12 (talkcontribs) 02:12, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you add Kattan dynasty also in the lead here as (explicitly mentioning thiyyar dynasties here as they were both are thiyyar dynasty from Malabar):

Thiyyar dynasties such as the Mannanar and Kattan dynasty existed in Kerala.[1][2] [2][2] [2][3] 207.96.13.12 (talk) 13:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither Mannanar or Kattan should be in the WP:LEAD as the article is currently written, the lead is supposed to be a summary of the body. I have no informed opinion on if they belong in the article or not. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
they both belong to the thiyya caste which comes under ezhava article. so in order to show their socio polical background it is important to keep in the lead, considering this caste is one of the backward low caste and faced caste discrimination in the past from upper caste. It highlight their history of having dynasties in the past and later becoming a lower caste due to suppression . 207.96.13.12 (talk) 19:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Sadasivan, S. N. (2000). A Social History of India. p. 349. ISBN 9788176481700.
  2. ^ a b c d M.V Vishnu Nambutiri, (2001) Life and Culture of Thiyyas in the extreme North of Kerala, sree sankaracharya university, page-68,69
  3. ^ Cite error: The named reference Smith1976pp31-32 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).